tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post113188665666313019..comments2024-03-05T00:59:35.390+08:00Comments on Angry Doctor: Let him who is without vice...angry dochttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03132410467147982699noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-1132050255656016402005-11-15T18:24:00.000+08:002005-11-15T18:24:00.000+08:00I think the advice is given under a given context....I think the advice is given under a given context. For example a healthy fat doctor tells an obese diabetic with high blood pressure and arthritis of the knee. In this case the diabetic needs to lose weight more than the fat doctor. Of course one might argue that being slimmer is healthier but we shouldn't assume that fat people are definitely unhealthy.<BR/>I think doctors are there more to give counsel than to sell an idea. But I guess that is just a a matter of semantics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-1131937717743156992005-11-14T11:08:00.000+08:002005-11-14T11:08:00.000+08:00Is BMW a good car?I personally prefer Toyota. If y...Is BMW a good car?<BR/><BR/>I personally prefer Toyota. If you asked me which care to buy, I'd day Toyota cos I drive one.<BR/><BR/>Tsk tsk. Doctors...sighAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-1131936923543880282005-11-14T10:55:00.000+08:002005-11-14T10:55:00.000+08:00To be fair I would have to say they are both stupi...To be fair I would have to say they are both stupid then. Perhaps the doctor is stupider because he knows the risks involved better than the patient.<BR/><BR/>But to use your analogy, when you buy a BMW, you know it's a good car regardless of how stupid the car saleman was. :)<BR/><BR/>I think doctors who are less than viceless in their own life probably feel that they can afford to be sick since they make a lot of money, and their colleagues would waive consultation fees for them. :pangry dochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03132410467147982699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-1131934770885823792005-11-14T10:19:00.000+08:002005-11-14T10:19:00.000+08:00Well you're right.Just a question. For the doctors...Well you're right.<BR/><BR/>Just a question. For the doctors who dish out the scientifically proven advice but does not follow it.<BR/><BR/>Why does the doctor not follow it? Let's say the reasons are,"very difficult, addicted already", "no time work many hours cannot exercise", "I am genetically predisposed to being obese etc"<BR/><BR/>What happens when the patient gives an excuse that is identical to the doctor's excuse? Then what?<BR/><BR/>I would be interested to see what the doctor's answer to that might be.<BR/><BR/>It goes back to sales principles. As doctors we are also salespeople pitching treatments and health ideas to our patients. Sales people deal with rejections. So do doctors. I used to say "No I am a doctor I am NOT a salesman" and I had a terrible time as a doctor. The day I accepted I too was also a salesman I became a better doctor almost immediately. I saw patients differently. I did not get angry with them. I understood it was their choice or my failure to show them the benefits of the program. (being a salesman is not a bad thing contrary to what people think. Sell comes from the word "sel" for "to serve")<BR/><BR/>Salespeople know that if they do not use the product they sell, it is difficult to sell it to their prospects. When the prospect's objection to buying the product is the same as theirs (eg too expensive) as to why they wouldn't buy the product either, they would be in a fix to answer that objection effectively.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-1131933741791762122005-11-14T10:02:00.000+08:002005-11-14T10:02:00.000+08:00I think then you ned to look at where the mesage i...I think then you ned to look at where the mesage is coming from.<BR/><BR/>The benefits of weight-loss, exercise, etc. is not from the doctor, but research and studies. The doctor merely passes it along.<BR/><BR/>If the doctor/priest does not heed the advice he hands out himself... well, then you just won't be seeing him in heaven. :)angry dochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03132410467147982699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-1131930716797029842005-11-14T09:11:00.000+08:002005-11-14T09:11:00.000+08:00Good point.Perhaps it would help if I toned down m...Good point.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps it would help if I toned down my call a bit?<BR/><BR/>Perhaps the doctor who is dishing out advice should be actively trying or doing the same himself? Eg if you want your patient to quit smoking, then the doctor should also be trying to quit too. Perhaps ask the patient to join him in the endeavour.<BR/><BR/>Or if he is trying to lose weight etc.<BR/><BR/>It just doesn't sit down well with me when someone is telling me to do something because he says it is good and all but he doesn't do it himself.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Imagine a priest telling the congregation not to seek material wealth for the poor are the rich in heaven, and his parishoners find out he is doing MLM as a side line thinking of becoming a millionaire.<BR/><BR/>Good advice sure but if the prophet is a false one, where's the moral to that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com