tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post114768579982032437..comments2024-03-05T00:59:35.390+08:00Comments on Angry Doctor: Living Will, Living Won'tangry dochttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03132410467147982699noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-1147783911377018472006-05-16T20:51:00.000+08:002006-05-16T20:51:00.000+08:00Well ignorance is bliss I suppose.Well ignorance is bliss I suppose.Dr Oz blokehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00876294124443628182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-1147783189221864312006-05-16T20:39:00.000+08:002006-05-16T20:39:00.000+08:00Thanks but no thanks.I have neither the inclinatio...Thanks but no thanks.<BR/><BR/>I have neither the inclination nor the appetite to read unpleasant stuff. Gimme the online editions of "Playboy" or "Penthouse" magazines anytime.<BR/><BR/>I still maintain that it is not the done thing to do, to pull out the plug despite and inspite of every arguement to the contrary. I'm just wondering in such circumstances, who has the unenviable task of switching off the machines. May his soul rest in peace! <BR/><BR/>Anyway, like the song says:<BR/><BR/>What ever will be, will be.....uglybaldiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17183609238273593550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-1147779317573780222006-05-16T19:35:00.000+08:002006-05-16T19:35:00.000+08:00uglybaldie, have you read the AMD FAQ from MOH?Eve...uglybaldie, have you read the AMD FAQ from MOH?<BR/><BR/>Everything is defined very specifically. AMD is only applied for patients with "terminal illnesses" and this is defined in the FAQ.<BR/><BR/>Uglybaldie, go read it lah. The link is on angrydr's blog entry.<BR/><BR/>Some of the questions answered are <BR/><BR/>What is an Advanced Medical Directive?<BR/>What is meant by "terminal illness"<BR/>What is meant by "extraordinary life sustaining treatment"? <BR/>Who can make an AMD? How do I make an AMD?<BR/>Is the AMD a type of euthanasia or mercy killing?<BR/>Does the AMD Act encourage euthanasia?<BR/>Who can certify that a person is terminally ill?<BR/>What happens if the panel of doctors cannot reach a unanimous decision?<BR/>Do I have to pay for the services of the second panel of 3 specialists appointed by MOH?<BR/>Can an AMD take effect is the second panel of doctors also cannot agree on the diagnosis?<BR/>If a patient who has made an AMD suffers from terminal illness, will he/she be left without medical treatment or left to starve?<BR/>What safeguards are there to ensure that I am given all the necessary treatment before the AMD is carried out?<BR/>If I change my mind about an AMD which I have made earlier, can I revoke it?<BR/>What is my condition is such that I am unable to write?<BR/>What if I do not have an AMD?<BR/><BR/>All in all there are 34 questions that are answered in the booklet I have from MOH.<BR/><BR/>Go read it lah uglybaldie. Actually MOH has done a good job making things an unambiguous and possible.Dr Oz blokehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00876294124443628182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-1147778038816530022006-05-16T19:13:00.000+08:002006-05-16T19:13:00.000+08:00huh? You mean to say that in a country like Austra...huh? You mean to say that in a country like Australia where medical care is free, they still have AMD? Countries with AMD are as miserly as us.<BR/><BR/>Only duffers will sign if it's free.<BR/><BR/>I really don't understand why the two elderly couple in question were that keen to sign. Their children owe it to them to take good care of them even if it means scrimping on that new car or apartment. And it is quite obvious that they have not bought adequate insurance when they were younger.<BR/><BR/>Frankly, what's a few ventilators running on our cheap electricity going to cost? Get Mediacorpse to do a few tear jerking fund raisers ala monk style and you will have a few dozen brand neuw, shiny ventilators ready to be mobilized.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, if you are STILL not sure about the pain and suffering thingy after having spent so many years in our ahem, world famous medical school, then I guess, to err on the side of safety is best. Keep 'em alive, that's what I would do.uglybaldiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17183609238273593550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-1147776620770886002006-05-16T18:50:00.000+08:002006-05-16T18:50:00.000+08:00"How do you know there's pain if you are in deep s..."How do you know there's pain if you are in deep slumber? Have you been there before?"<BR/><BR/>Well how do you know there is NO pain? <BR/><BR/>Have you been there before?<BR/><BR/>Don't ask questions only God can answer. You flatter me.<BR/><BR/>To put it on record, I am a doctor, and am NOT God or any other God/s.Dr Oz blokehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00876294124443628182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-1147776508401556412006-05-16T18:48:00.000+08:002006-05-16T18:48:00.000+08:00Err the very same Men In White you idolize say can...Err the very same Men In White you idolize say cannot touch reserves leh. It's all their hard work that the reserves are in the billions. They don't want to see it spent so trivially like you say.<BR/><BR/>Anyway it's not true that in other countries there is no AMD. I'm actually SHOCKED that someone like YOU could shoot his mouth off saying "Oinkle,Other country where got AMD huh?"<BR/><BR/>I thought you were the guy who consulted Dr Google? What happened this time?<BR/><BR/>Go to google and type "Advanced Medical Directive" and do a search. Oh and please search "the web" and NOT "pages from Singapore"<BR/><BR/>If you are too lazy to do that, then cut and paste the below.<BR/>http://www.medicinenet.com/<BR/>script/main/art.asp?articlekey=8830<BR/><BR/>Other countries had the AMD for far longer than Singapore lah.Dr Oz blokehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00876294124443628182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-1147775179088874842006-05-16T18:26:00.000+08:002006-05-16T18:26:00.000+08:00Oinkle,Other country where got AMD huh?Deep in you...Oinkle,<BR/><BR/>Other country where got AMD huh?<BR/><BR/>Deep in your subconcious mind, you know that this AMD aims to basically save money and not alleviate suffering. How do you know there's pain if you are in deep slumber? Have you been there before?<BR/><BR/>Keeping patients alive as long as they are not ready to go is the state's responsibility.<BR/><BR/>You forgot we've got billions. Not me lah, the state. What's a couple of millions to keep our citizens alive? Less than peanuts!uglybaldiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17183609238273593550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-1147768479821658562006-05-16T16:34:00.000+08:002006-05-16T16:34:00.000+08:00"Miracles do happen that medical science cannot ex..."Miracles do happen that medical science cannot explain."<BR/><BR/>True. Unfortunately the other truth is that most Singaporeans cannot afford to pay for the ICU care while waiting for miracles to happen (if they happen).<BR/><BR/>Otherwise I don't see why the hospital would be unhappy to keep lots of patients on ventilators all over the place, earn nice profits while doing very little actively everyday.<BR/><BR/>Try going to the private hospitals and I'm sure they will have no objections to letting people stay on ventilators waiting for miracles to happen if they can afford to pay the charges indefinitely.<BR/><BR/>There is also the matter of how much the patient actually suffers. This one we will never know because these patients are unable to make the call by the time they reach that stage.<BR/><BR/>So uglybaldie, be careful what you wish for and not wish for. Who knows there might come a time when you are cursing yourself in some subconscious slumber in some ICU for not signing that damn AMD while your hard earned money is going down the drain, because your relatives are saying "Miracles do happen that medical science cannot explain" and since we can afford it, we will hold out for as long as there is hope, and you are in terrible pain day in day out. day in , day out, day in, day out.....Dr Oz blokehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00876294124443628182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-1147768268364007742006-05-16T16:31:00.000+08:002006-05-16T16:31:00.000+08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Dr Oz blokehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00876294124443628182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-1147764997544858172006-05-16T15:36:00.000+08:002006-05-16T15:36:00.000+08:00i jus learnt something new today. didn't know it e...i jus learnt something new today. didn't know it existed. ooppss, i am a bimbo. ;-) thanks for posting tt.mybabybunnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05342344178087484148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-1147761431480669952006-05-16T14:37:00.000+08:002006-05-16T14:37:00.000+08:00This AMD is unethical and bad.Miracles do happen t...This AMD is unethical and bad.<BR/><BR/>Miracles do happen that medical science cannot explain.<BR/><BR/>Pull the plug? <BR/><BR/>More like an execution.<BR/><BR/>Yeah, who wants to have the first go?<BR/><BR/>You, houseman, go do it!uglybaldiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17183609238273593550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-1147742172436208412006-05-16T09:16:00.000+08:002006-05-16T09:16:00.000+08:00Yeah it's true that despite the AMD being around f...Yeah it's true that despite the AMD being around for over 10 years, I have never seen it in use in the ICU's at our hospitals.<BR/><BR/>For the matter, can MOH release figures on how many people have actually signed an AMD?<BR/><BR/>It would give a fair indication of how much the people know about the AMD.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps MOH might want to review the AMD again in terms of public education.Dr Oz blokehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00876294124443628182noreply@blogger.com