tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post2728193842179616926..comments2024-03-05T00:59:35.390+08:00Comments on Angry Doctor: Sick, sick people 13angry dochttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03132410467147982699noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-45062511712560072342018-12-10T08:58:39.003+08:002018-12-10T08:58:39.003+08:00I was diagnosed about 5 years ago of HIV and have ...I was diagnosed about 5 years ago of HIV and have lived taking ARV and thought of having Herbal medicine to cure this disease completely. I wouldn't be able to bare Vomiting and my tongue go white because of these diseases called HIV/Aids. I learned to live with it but I have definitely prayed and had hands laid on me, My friends at work knew about my HIV Status so on a faithful day my friend Hannah talk to me about this great man called Dr Itua From west African because my friend Hannah is from West African too she came to acquire degree here in South Carolina, I accepted the challenge and contacted Dr Itua Herbal Center...drituaherbalcenter@gmail.com also chat on Whatsapp Number.+2348149277967. Then he delivered his Herbal medicine to me which was labeled as Dr Itua Herbal Medicine Cure For HIV/Aids, I took it as he instructed after two weeks I went to test and I was tested Negative. I'm still writing on every blog site related to the following diseases such as HIV/Aids, Herpes Virus, Shingles, Hepatitis B/C, Because he cures this kind of diseases. Haiden Hayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03651511101271746592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-80482916753074463652012-12-30T19:46:15.278+08:002012-12-30T19:46:15.278+08:00I consider everyone ought to browse on it.
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I think sexual behaviour of MSM and heterosexual are good data to have. I don't see why we should exclude this data.<BR/><BR/><I>If it is the sex act itself which carries a higher risk, why focus on the orientation or gender of the participants?</I><BR/><BR/>just another way of analysis. The more way of analysis the better you understand by looking at the problem with different angles.<BR/><BR/><I>Like I wrote earlier by all means look at the different and common factors between those who have HIV and those who do not, but by drawing the line at orientation, you are already saying that it is this difference in orientation that accounts for the difference.</I><BR/><BR/>No it is not the orientation but a characteristic of the orientation that might lead to the difference.<BR/><BR/>If you want to find out why cantonese has a higher incidence of nasal pharnygeal carcinoma would you not want to do a comparative study between cantonese and the other dialect groups to find out why it is so? In the same way if the homosexual population has a higher percentage of HIV carriers would you not want to find out why so you can effective prevent the high percentage? So why not?<BR/><BR/><I>Look at the MOH HIV Statistics again. It also lists prevalence by age, gender, race, and marital status. Why aren't any of these used as the dividing line in the current debate?</I><BR/><BR/>Well because the topic began with your post of homosexuality. I think should analyse all the data.<BR/><BR/><I>Currently our knowledge points to multiple partners and unsafe sex practices as the factors which are the main factors, and these things cut across orientation divide.</I><BR/><BR/>yes but what about psychological aspects? I believe understanding how a heterosexual thinks and how a homosexual thinks would give more stratgies to encourage safe sexual practices.<BR/><BR/><I>To continue with my analogy, to continue to look at the statistics with orientation as a divide is to continue to look at race as a divide even after we found out that among the Chinese and Malay children, it is those who come from lower-income families who do worse. </I><BR/><BR/>again it depends of what you do with the data you find out. HOw people want to use the data. It is a double edge sword. People can use it for good or discrimination. <BR/><BR/>palmistAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-26245317717746726372007-08-13T10:25:00.000+08:002007-08-13T10:25:00.000+08:00"you must agree that there is a correlation betwee..."you must agree that there is a correlation between sexual orientation and sexual habits/behaviours."<BR/><BR/>"MSM most common form of sex is anal sex and heterosexual is vaginal sex. There is already a difference and this should be taken into account."<BR/> <BR/>Yes, orientation correlates with behaviour, but how is unprotected anal sex between a man and a woman different from unprotected anal sex between two men?<BR/> <BR/>If it is the sex act itself which carries a higher risk, why focus on the orientation or gender of the participants?<BR/> <BR/>Like I wrote earlier by all means look at the different and common factors between those who have HIV and those who do not, but by drawing the line at orientation, you are already saying that it is this difference in orientation that accounts for the difference.<BR/> <BR/>Look at the MOH HIV Statistics again. It also lists prevalence by age, gender, race, and marital status. Why aren't any of these used as the dividing line in the current debate?<BR/> <BR/>What about other factors which may account for the differences, like number of partners, frequency of condom use, age of first intercourse, etc.?<BR/> <BR/>The fact is if you view the prevalence as a function of each of the factors above, at least a few will give you significant difference in HIV prevalence, so like you said, the key is finding the differences which we can change to help curb the spread of HIV.<BR/> <BR/>Currently our knowledge points to multiple partners and unsafe sex practices as the factors which are the main factors, and these things cut across orientation divide.<BR/> <BR/>To continue with my analogy, to continue to look at the statistics with orientation as a divide is to continue to look at race as a divide even after we found out that among the Chinese and Malay children, it is those who come from lower-income families who do worse.angry dochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03132410467147982699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-6055675813554289512007-08-13T08:54:00.000+08:002007-08-13T08:54:00.000+08:00HIV transmission is a function of behaviour, not s...<I>HIV transmission is a function of behaviour, not sexual orientation</I><BR/><BR/>And that is why I use MSM instead of homosexuals. However you must agree that there is a correlation between sexual orientation and sexual habits/behaviours.<BR/><BR/><I>but to single out homosexuals as the people who need attention more than heterosexual is to confuse the epidemiology of the disease for its mode of transmission and therefore prevention.</I><BR/><BR/>the only reason why more attention is paid to them is because their prevalance in terms of percentage is higher compared to that of the heterosexuals counterparts. That is something worth looking at. Why they should have a higher infection rates. You can never find the answer by just looking at what is common. For eg if malays have a higher incidence of diabetes you will never find your answer if you just look at what is common with the chinese population.<BR/><BR/>Beside there is no confusion of the epidemiology. MSM most common form of sex is anal sex and heterosexual is vaginal sex. There is already a difference and this should be taken into account.<BR/><BR/><I>Do you then try to find out how the 'Malayness' of the children predispose them to doing worse?</I><BR/><BR/>The reason to find the difference is to solve the problem not to box them into stereotype of 'malayness'. If for the sake of political correctness we sacrifice the truth then we are avoiding the problem. We can never move on if we fear we might open a can of worms. How to solve a problem without first understanding it and acknowledging it?<BR/><BR/><I>Or do you try to look at why the Malay children who don't do well don't do well, and why the Chinese children who don't do well don't do well, and see what the common underlying factor is (like family make-up or family income)?</I><BR/><BR/>If you look at what is common only you may miss out other factors which contributes to the difference. Like I say do both look at what is different and what is common to get a complete picture.<BR/><BR/><I>As I wrote time and again, every piece of information that is presented to you is there because someone wants to influence the way you think and act. </I><BR/><BR/>If the stats are true then I think it would be more helpful to look at both the similiarities and differences. You wrote out of political correctness to prevent discrimination. However I feel that there are other better ways to prevent discrimination. It is how we handle the data and finding that leads to discrimination and not the data themselves.<BR/><BR/>palmistAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-59783810660355707432007-08-11T14:47:00.000+08:002007-08-11T14:47:00.000+08:00palmist,HIV transmission is a function of behaviou...palmist,<BR/><BR/>HIV transmission is a function of behaviour, not sexual orientation.<BR/><BR/>By all means look at the difference in behaviour between people with HIV (homo- or heterosexual), and those without HIV (homo- or heterosexual); but to single out homosexuals as the people who need attention more than heterosexual is to confuse the epidemiology of the disease for its mode of transmission and therefore prevention.<BR/><BR/>I'll draw an analogy (which is of course imperfect because all analogies are imperfect...):<BR/><BR/>Every year the Ministry of Education releases figures on how well children do in their exams, and they break the figures down by race.<BR/><BR/>Supposing you notice that Malay children tend to do worse than Chinese children.<BR/><BR/>Do you then try to find out how the 'Malayness' of the children predispose them to doing worse?<BR/><BR/>Or do you try to look at why the Malay children who don't do well don't do well, and why the Chinese children who don't do well don't do well, and see what the common underlying factor is (like family make-up or family income)?<BR/><BR/>As I wrote time and again, every piece of information that is presented to you is there because someone wants to influence the way you think and act.angry dochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03132410467147982699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-42612231103789633402007-08-11T13:14:00.000+08:002007-08-11T13:14:00.000+08:00No, we should look into what is common between peo...<I>No, we should look into what is common between people who have HIV, be they homosexual, heterosexual, or bisexual, and work on educating people on the risks and how to reduce them.</I><BR/><BR/>The prevalence of HIV in the MSM population is higher than the general hetero population in singapore. IT should be investigated. It is not about discrimation. It is about facts and figures on why there is higher risk in the MSM population. Whether gay community like it or not the percentages are higher in singapore. I think ignoring the stats is not doing justice to acknowledge the problem. <BR/><BR/>I have no idea why should we just look at the similiarities and not the differences. I think we should look at both similiarities and difference to get a better idea of how the disease is spread. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Your objectivity is tampered by your crusade against homophobia.<BR/><BR/>palmistAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-64333411429436512622007-08-10T10:31:00.000+08:002007-08-10T10:31:00.000+08:00angry doc said...No, we should look into what is c...angry doc said...<BR/><BR/><B>No, we should look into what is common between people who have HIV, be they homosexual, heterosexual, or bisexual, and work on educating people on the risks and how to reduce them.</B><BR/><BR/>No, we should apply the same logic as Dr. Chin and point to the horrendous HIV affliction in Africa where it is spread mostly by heterosexual men and accordingly vote to criminalise heterosexual sex. <BR/><BR/>These heteros who patronise prostitutes at Geylang and Orchard Towers are thoroughly disgusting. <BR/><BR/>The <I>hetero</I> lifestyle is so uncool.<BR/><BR/>PZAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-58351037452893229592007-08-09T11:11:00.000+08:002007-08-09T11:11:00.000+08:00Think you can get your hands on the new Dawkins do...<B>Think you can get your hands on the new Dawkins documentary?</B><BR/><BR/>I'll just wait for it to appear on Google Video, like his previous documentary.The Key Questionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05426898630563791849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-51429440439226887262007-08-08T21:09:00.000+08:002007-08-08T21:09:00.000+08:00Of course Dr Chin's background is entirely relevan...Of course Dr Chin's background is entirely relevant, considering he misses no opportunity to declare his own profession to the adoring world. Strangely enough, most loc-tors seem to share the same affliction, extending all the way to the obituary pages.<BR/><BR/>Sick people are sick, as is declared in the title of the post. To what else would the title be referring to, really?blacktaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17287716938388381720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-330522680768722122007-08-08T19:53:00.000+08:002007-08-08T19:53:00.000+08:00Thanks.Think you can get your hands on the new Daw...Thanks.<BR/><BR/>Think you can get your hands on the new Dawkins documentary?angry dochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03132410467147982699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-14971118499882370092007-08-08T19:52:00.000+08:002007-08-08T19:52:00.000+08:00Er... the link to that article *was* the reason wh...<B>Er... the link to that article *was* the reason why I deleted that comment... </B><BR/><BR/>I understand.The Key Questionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05426898630563791849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-87662497060752248052007-08-08T19:49:00.000+08:002007-08-08T19:49:00.000+08:00Er... the link to that article *was* the reason wh...Er... the link to that article *was* the reason why I deleted that comment...angry dochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03132410467147982699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-36363103753205335442007-08-08T19:47:00.000+08:002007-08-08T19:47:00.000+08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.The Key Questionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05426898630563791849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-77245123831220364832007-08-08T19:04:00.000+08:002007-08-08T19:04:00.000+08:00I wasn't referring to you, leng hiong, but the del...I wasn't referring to you, leng hiong, but the deleted comment.<BR/><BR/>Traditionally, a specialist doctor wears a black name-tag (like Dr Mahatir); Dr Chin is, as far as I know, a practising doctor.angry dochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03132410467147982699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-75946674713243074602007-08-08T18:29:00.000+08:002007-08-08T18:29:00.000+08:00Let's just look at Dr Chin's data and arguments, a...<B>Let's just look at Dr Chin's data and arguments, and not his background or qualifications, shall we?</B><BR/><BR/>Of course. I asked about it because I'm not familiar with the term "grand and almighty black tag". Just to clarify.The Key Questionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05426898630563791849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-25323704957246016772007-08-08T15:10:00.000+08:002007-08-08T15:10:00.000+08:00No, we should look into what is common between peo...No, we should look into what is common between people who have HIV, be they homosexual, heterosexual, or bisexual, and work on educating people on the risks and how to reduce them.angry dochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03132410467147982699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-26209217960420166362007-08-08T14:35:00.000+08:002007-08-08T14:35:00.000+08:00Angry doc says, "The spread of HIV in Singapore is...Angry doc says, "The spread of HIV in Singapore is neither exclusively by men having sex with men (MSM)..."<BR/><BR/>That is true, but even angrydoc must concede that if gays constitute just 2.5% of the population but account for 30% of the HIV cases, that indicates a serious problem in the homosexual lifestyle. The gay community should first look into why they carry a much higher risk of HIV compared to the rest of the population.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-52205939507397232892007-08-08T14:24:00.000+08:002007-08-08T14:24:00.000+08:00Let's just look at Dr Chin's data and arguments, a...Let's just look at Dr Chin's data and arguments, and not his background or qualifications, shall we?angry dochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03132410467147982699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-40018374390131542922007-08-08T13:14:00.000+08:002007-08-08T13:14:00.000+08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-32480230528853768232007-08-08T12:07:00.000+08:002007-08-08T12:07:00.000+08:00Hi Blacktag,Do you mean that Dr. Chin is not a med...Hi Blacktag,<BR/><BR/>Do you mean that Dr. Chin is not a medical doctor?<BR/><BR/>I can't find his name using MOH website search.The Key Questionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05426898630563791849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15575652.post-38852502281861876062007-08-07T22:02:00.000+08:002007-08-07T22:02:00.000+08:00A simple search on www.moh.gov.sg reveals Dr. Chin...A simple search on www.moh.gov.sg reveals Dr. Chin's background. Not a grand and almighty black tag! Well, at least now we know where not to go for intelligent advice.blacktaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17287716938388381720noreply@blogger.com